Gali Bloch Liran joined Eyal David on his podcast Product Builder to discuss navigating the extreme uncertainty (VUCA) of the entrepreneurial journey.They explored the reality of product building, blending everyday business trade-offs with the mental resilience required to survive them. Gali introduced the “Two Circles” model—the business and the mental—and shared practical tools for mastering the founder's mindset, managing energy, and coping with failure.

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